http://www.theoblogian.org/Quality theological discussion.60 http://ww.theoblogian.org/Post.aspx?s=rc&idpPost=37#Comment_86<P>It is unfortunate that Intelligent Design has been equated to creationism.&nbsp; Although there are qualified ID promoters, that equation is natural - ID/Creation/Creator/Bible/religion.&nbsp; For ID to gain a respectable position as a legitimate challenger of evolution, the proponent if ID must clearly draw a line between scientific fact and what lies beyond.&nbsp; One need not deny the faith element to gain a scientific, factual position in understanding the matter of life as an element of 'what is'.&nbsp; They just need to keep their faith and science separate.</P> <P>In a parallel consideration, evolutionists need to admit that they likewise face the difference between scientific fact and their basic theory.&nbsp; Credibility forces them to face all the facts and coordinate them into a reasonable consensus.&nbsp; They must admit that the circular reasoning of 'rocks determine the age of fossils found in them, and the age of the fossils is determined by the age of the rocks', does not qualify.</P> <P>If the matter of 'intelligent design' must be considered only on the basis of laboratory analysis, with reasonable empirical evidence, then evolution must submit to the same standards.&nbsp; The <STRONG>facts</STRONG> of biological development for all flora and fauna must be considered equally by both sides.&nbsp; The inter-dependency of, and interaction between other fields of science need to be recognized.&nbsp; Geology cannot be adequately understood apart from hydrology.&nbsp; The first and second laws of thermo-dynamics need to be recognized and applied to all elements involved - evenly and equally.&nbsp; ID can be and must be pursued apart from the readily recognized Person of The Creator.&nbsp; Although there is no analogy, in the area of consumer products, an item is usually chosen on the basis of the producer's reputation.&nbsp; By implication, the order within each life-form and interaction between those forms present an orderly quality which represent a superior "producer".</P> <P>For ID to be effective, those in the fore-front of the action must be thoroughly scientific and challenge their opponents to meet the same standards.&nbsp; There is enough credible evidence in every field of science to keep ID effective, and to cause evolutionists to reconsider.</P>G. Edward10/13/2005 2:51:00 AM